Start MOQ Negotiation With the Real Cost Drivers

For canvas wine carriers, MOQ is not a single number created by the sales team. It is the result of fabric availability, cutting yield, print setup, sewing line efficiency, trim purchases, packaging materials, and inspection workload. A nonprofit buyer has more leverage when the RFQ reduces those variables before asking for a lower quantity. If the campaign needs ten bag shapes, four fabric colors, six sponsor layouts, custom labels, and rush delivery, the factory is not negotiating one MOQ. It is managing several small production jobs with separate risks.

The strongest MOQ strategy is to keep the physical carrier stable and let branding vary inside a controlled print area. One natural canvas, one body size, one handle construction, one print location, and one packing method can often be grouped as one production run even when chapter names or sponsor logos change. In contrast, changing gusset width, fabric color, handle material, print method, or carton packing for each version usually resets the cost base. The buyer should therefore negotiate the product platform first, then the artwork split.

A useful RFQ asks the supplier to break down which minimums are flexible and which are fixed. Fabric may be available from stock, but woven labels may have their own MOQ. Sewing may be possible at a lower quantity, but screen printing may require setup charges per artwork. Custom dyed canvas may require mill minimums that a normal stock fabric does not. When each driver is visible, the nonprofit procurement team can decide whether to simplify the specification, pay a setup charge, increase total volume, or combine orders across chapters.

  • Best MOQ lever: one shared carrier body with artwork changes only inside the approved print zone.
  • Weak MOQ lever: requesting a discount after adding custom dyeing, embroidery, special labels, and mixed packing.
  • Factory cost drivers: fabric roll minimums, cutting waste, screen setup, sewing line changeover, trim minimums, and packing complexity.
  • Buyer control point: ask for total MOQ, per-artwork MOQ, and separate setup fees instead of accepting one blended number.
  • Procurement rule: remove physical variation before negotiating price or quantity concessions.

Specify Canvas Weight, Composition, and Tolerance

Canvas wine carriers are judged by both hand feel and load support. A very light cotton bag may look acceptable in an empty sample photo but twist, sag, or distort when a filled bottle is inserted. For most nonprofit giveaways and donor thank-you packs, 10 oz to 12 oz cotton canvas, approximately 340-410 GSM after finishing, is a practical starting range. It gives more body than thin promotional cotton, usually prints cleanly with simple artwork, and still packs relatively flat for event distribution.

Premium donor packs, winery collaborations, auction bundles, or retail resale programs may justify 14 oz to 16 oz canvas, approximately 475-540 GSM after finishing. The benefit is a more structured feel and stronger perceived value. The tradeoff is higher fabric cost, heavier export cartons, fewer pieces per carton, and more sewing sensitivity. Heavy canvas can require suitable needles, adjusted thread tension, and reinforced seam planning. If the order is shipped by air because the event date is close, the freight impact can be more important than the small unit-price difference.

Procurement buyers should request fabric weight in both oz and GSM and state whether the weight is greige, dyed, washed, or finished. Suppliers sometimes quote the same general phrase, such as cotton canvas, while using different weights or finishing routes. A PO should define finished GSM tolerance, such as +/-5% if the supplier can support it, and confirm whether the fabric is natural, bleached, dyed, organic, recycled, or blended. If sustainability claims matter to the campaign, request the relevant certification documents rather than relying on marketing wording.

  • Economy risk: 6 oz to 8 oz canvas can behave more like a bottle sleeve than a reusable carrier.
  • Standard range: 10 oz to 12 oz, about 340-410 GSM, for many campaign giveaways and thank-you gifts.
  • Premium range: 14 oz to 16 oz, about 475-540 GSM, for sponsor gifts, resale, and higher-value donor packs.
  • RFQ detail: state fabric composition, color, finished GSM, oz weight, and acceptable tolerance before comparing prices.
  • Cost warning: heavier canvas affects sewing speed, carton weight, freight cost, and carton capacity.

Build the Pattern Around the Bottle Program

MOQ discussions should not start until the bottle program is clear. A standard 750 ml Bordeaux wine bottle, a wider Burgundy bottle, a sparkling wine bottle, champagne, olive oil, cider, liquor, and magnum formats can all require different clearances. A carrier approved around the narrowest bottle can become tight, distorted, or difficult to load when a sponsor uses a wider bottle. Nonprofit teams should collect bottle dimensions from winery partners early, especially when the campaign includes donated wine from multiple sources.

A single-bottle carrier is usually the simplest structure. It may use a flat body, side seams, and a boxed base that helps the bottle stand upright. A two-bottle carrier needs more pattern control because the center divider, bottom seam, and side panel width determine whether the bottles sit evenly. If the divider is too narrow, low, or poorly anchored, the bottles can touch during handling. If the base is too soft, the carrier may lean or collapse when placed on a table.

The best sample test uses the widest and heaviest bottle expected in the campaign, not the easiest bottle available in the office. Test insertion, removal, standing stability, handle comfort, divider position, and panel distortion. For gala pickup tables and charity auctions, loading speed matters because volunteers may need to prepare many bags quickly. A carrier that requires force to load can slow fulfillment and increase breakage risk around glass products. Pattern approval should include bottle model, diameter, height, and filled weight so later changes are visible.

  • Single-bottle format: simpler sewing, lower inspection complexity, and stronger MOQ leverage.
  • Two-bottle format: better for gift bundles but requires divider, base, and load-balance control.
  • Critical measurements: bottle diameter, bottle height, shoulder width, filled weight, carrier width, gusset, base, and handle drop.
  • Sample rule: test with the widest and heaviest approved bottle, not only a slim 750 ml wine bottle.
  • Event risk: tight loading can delay volunteers and damage the presentation even when the print looks correct.

Use Artwork Strategy to Protect the MOQ

Nonprofit campaigns often create complexity through artwork rather than construction. Sponsor logos, chapter names, campaign dates, donor recognition lines, event titles, and regional messages can quickly multiply print versions. The factory may be able to group those versions if the print size, print location, color count, bag size, fabric, and packing method stay the same. If each sponsor version changes placement, print area, color count, and approval timing, the order becomes a sequence of separate setups.

Screen printing is usually the most practical method for canvas wine carriers with one to three solid colors. It suits bold nonprofit logos, event names, sponsor marks, and simple campaign graphics. The buyer should provide Pantone references or brand color standards, but should also approve the ink on the actual canvas because natural fabric shade and texture affect the perceived color. Heat transfer can work for full-color graphics, gradients, or detailed artwork, but the buyer should approve hand feel, edge adhesion, cracking behavior on folds, and surface finish. Embroidery may look premium, but it adds stitch count, digitizing, puckering risk, and slower production, especially on lighter canvas.

A strong artwork plan uses one locked print window. For example, all versions may share the same front panel position and maximum print size, with only the chapter name or sponsor line changing. That gives the supplier a repeatable setup and gives the buyer a clearer way to request per-artwork pricing. It also reduces inspection errors because QC staff can measure placement from the same reference edges on every version. When artwork is controlled, MOQ negotiation becomes a production planning conversation rather than a plea for an exception.

  • Best setup: same print size, same location, same color count, and changed text or sponsor mark only.
  • Costly setup: different print locations, print methods, ink counts, and approval dates for each version.
  • Screen print fit: solid logos, event names, campaign years, and sponsor panels on cotton canvas.
  • Heat-transfer check: approve adhesion, edge lift, fold cracking, gloss level, and hand feel on the selected canvas.
  • Artwork control: request a print strike-off before bulk printing, not just a digital proof.

Separate Total MOQ From Per-Version Minimums

A nonprofit campaign may say it needs 1,000 canvas wine carriers, but the factory needs to know whether that means one artwork or ten versions of 100 pieces. The total quantity may support efficient cutting and sewing, while each artwork still requires separate screen setup, ink control, counting, labeling, and packing. If the buyer asks only for the total MOQ, per-version costs often appear later as screen charges, small-batch print premiums, or packing surcharges.

Buyers should ask suppliers to quote several practical scenarios. For example, one version of 1,000 pieces, five versions of 200 pieces, and ten versions of 100 pieces using the same bag body and print location. This helps the procurement team see the cost of artwork fragmentation. If sponsor versions are unavoidable, the buyer can sometimes lower the per-version burden by using one ink color, one print size, and one shared background layout. Another option is to produce the physical bags together and pack artwork versions separately after printing.

Do not assume that a lower MOQ always means a lower project cost. A factory may accept a 300-piece order by using sample-room sewing, leftover fabric, or manual packing, but the unit price and consistency may not match normal bulk production. Very small lots also reduce the buyer’s ability to run meaningful random inspection. The more professional question is not only 'Can you do 300?' but 'What changes in fabric availability, production method, inspection, unit price, and lead time if the order is 300 instead of 1,000?'

  • Ask separately: total MOQ, MOQ per artwork, MOQ per fabric color, MOQ per size, and MOQ per packing method.
  • Compare scenarios: one artwork, five artwork versions, and ten artwork versions using the same carrier body.
  • Watch hidden costs: screen charges, wash-up time, small-batch print premiums, sorting labor, and label minimums.
  • Avoid confusion: define whether MOQ is counted after sample approval, artwork approval, or material booking.
  • Negotiation option: accept setup charges for very small artwork versions while keeping the main body production grouped.

Issue an RFQ Suppliers Can Price Accurately

A vague RFQ creates quotes that are not comparable. One supplier may quote 8 oz canvas, another may quote 12 oz, and a third may include a different handle or packing method. The cheapest offer then looks attractive until sampling reveals weak structure, wrong print coverage, or missing charges. A professional quote sheet should list bag format, finished size, fabric specification, handle construction, print method, print size, artwork count, packing method, quantity, delivery window, destination, and incoterm.

Finished size should be described with measurement points. Include body height, body width, gusset or boxed base width, divider dimensions for two-bottle carriers, handle length, handle drop, seam allowance if relevant, and print placement from fixed edges. For fabric, state cotton canvas or blended canvas, natural or dyed color, oz weight, GSM, and tolerance. For artwork, state number of versions, colors per version, Pantone references, print dimensions, and file format. For packing, state bulk pack or individual pack, pieces per carton, carton label needs, and whether artwork versions can be mixed.

Landed cost requires more than unit price. Canvas wine carriers can be bulky, and carton efficiency affects freight cost. Ask for export carton length, width, height, gross weight, net weight, pieces per carton, loading port, HS code guidance if available, and whether the quote is EXW, FOB, CIF, DDP, or another incoterm. If the nonprofit has multiple destination sites, ask whether cartons can be labeled by destination or whether the order will ship to one consolidation point. These details prevent a low FOB price from becoming an expensive delivered campaign.

  • Product fields: format, size, fabric, handle, base, divider, print method, print size, and tolerance.
  • Artwork fields: version count, color count, Pantone references, file format, approval contact, and locked print window.
  • Commercial fields: unit price, sample cost, setup charges, screen charges, payment terms, quote validity, and MOQ rules.
  • Logistics fields: carton size, carton weight, pieces per carton, loading port, incoterm, and shipment method.
  • Procurement note: state campaign use, such as giveaway, donor gift, resale, or event fulfillment, so finish standards are aligned.

Use Sampling Gates to Stop Bulk Mistakes

Sampling should prove function, not only appearance. A construction sample confirms the carrier’s size, bottle fit, handle strength, base stability, divider layout, seam quality, and folding behavior. A print strike-off confirms ink color, coverage, registration, hand feel, and placement on the actual fabric. A pre-production sample, or sealed golden sample, locks the approved construction and decoration before bulk cutting. Each approval step reduces a different risk.

Digital mockups are useful for layout, but they cannot verify how ink sits on coarse canvas, whether a bottle loads easily, or whether handles distort under load. If time is tight, the buyer can approve the construction sample and print strike-off in parallel, but should avoid approving bulk production from a flat PDF only. The sample record should include date, fabric weight, fabric color, bottle tested, finished dimensions, print size, and any allowed changes. A signed sample or documented photo set with measurements is much stronger than informal email approval.

Nonprofit approvals often involve boards, sponsors, development teams, event managers, and external designers. To keep the timeline under control, freeze measurable specifications first. Once the body size, handle, base, divider, and fabric weight are approved, later sponsor logo edits should not reopen construction unless a functional issue is found. This prevents one stakeholder’s artwork change from triggering a new sample cycle, a new quote, and a missed event date.

  • Construction sample: verify body size, gusset, base, divider, handle drop, stitching, and bottle fit.
  • Print strike-off: verify ink color, opacity, registration, print hand, and placement on the selected canvas.
  • Golden sample: seal or document the approved sample before bulk cutting and printing.
  • Approval record: note fabric weight, tested bottle dimensions, sample date, and accepted tolerances.
  • Timeline control: freeze construction before allowing final sponsor or chapter artwork edits.

Define QC Tolerances Before Production

Canvas is a natural textile, so minor slubs and small shade variation can occur. That does not mean all defects should pass. A procurement buyer should define acceptable and unacceptable conditions before production starts. Functional failures such as open seams, skipped stitches at handles, loose divider seams, tearing fabric, or base seam failure should be treated more seriously than minor natural fabric character. Cosmetic standards should match the campaign use: a premium donor gift or resale item needs a cleaner threshold than a low-cost event giveaway.

Finished dimensions should be measured from fixed reference points on relaxed bags. Common workable tolerances for small sewn fabric goods may be around +/-0.5 cm for smaller features and +/-1 cm for larger panels, but the buyer and supplier should agree the exact tolerances in the PO. Handle drop matters because it affects comfort and appearance. Print placement should also have a tolerance measured from the same edge every time, such as the top seam or side seam. Without a measurement method, print disputes become subjective.

Load testing is essential for wine carriers because a filled bottle creates concentrated stress at the handle insertion, side seams, boxed base, and divider. The test should use the heaviest approved bottle configuration: one filled bottle for single carriers, or two filled bottles for two-bottle carriers. The failure criteria should be clear: no stitch popping, no seam opening, no fabric tearing, no handle detachment, and no severe distortion after the agreed hold or carry period. The final inspection should include random real-bottle loading, not just visual inspection of empty bags.

  • Critical functional checks: handle attachment, base seam, side seam, divider seam, and bottle insertion.
  • Measurement checks: body width, height, gusset, base, divider position, handle drop, and print placement.
  • Print checks: color match, opacity, smears, pinholes, registration shift, cracking, and transfer marks.
  • Fabric checks: stains, oil marks, odor, severe slubs, mildew, shade panels, needle damage, and contamination.
  • Inspection timing: incoming fabric, inline sewing, print approval, final random inspection, and carton count reconciliation.

Plan Packing for Receiving, Not Only Freight

Packing decisions affect both cost and campaign execution. Wine carriers may be delivered to nonprofit offices, event venues, fulfillment centers, winery partners, retail back rooms, or regional chapters. If multiple artwork versions are mixed in unlabeled cartons, volunteers may spend hours sorting on event day. If cartons are too heavy, venue staff may refuse manual handling or move them slowly. If printed panels are folded sharply, the front logo may show creases when donors receive the item.

Flat packing is usually efficient for single-bottle canvas carriers, but the fold method should avoid hard creases across the printed area. Two-bottle carriers with boxed bases or dividers may need fewer pieces per carton to prevent deformation. A typical bulk carton might hold 50-100 pieces depending on fabric weight, bag size, and folding method, but the supplier should quote actual carton dimensions and gross weight instead of using a generic estimate. Individual polybags add cost and plastic use, but they may be justified for retail resale, long storage, or dusty warehouse environments. For a one-day giveaway, an inner liner and well-labeled bulk cartons may be enough.

Carton labels should support the receiving workflow. At minimum, labels should show style name, fabric color, artwork version, quantity, carton number, destination if applicable, and purchase order reference. If the order ships to multiple locations, ask whether the factory can pack by destination or whether a domestic distributor will split the shipment. Confirm whether artwork versions are packed one version per carton or mixed by ratio. One version per carton is often easier for event teams, while mixed cartons may suit kit assembly if clearly marked.

  • Event packing: prioritize clear carton labels, version separation, and manageable carton weight.
  • Retail packing: confirm barcode labels, hangtags, individual bags, clean folding, and presentation standards.
  • Export packing: use moisture protection and export-grade cartons for long transit or humid routes.
  • Carton data: request dimensions, gross weight, net weight, pieces per carton, and carton label artwork.
  • Receiving control: reconcile carton labels, artwork counts, destination marks, and packing list before event distribution.

Protect the Campaign Calendar While Negotiating

A lower MOQ is not useful if the delivery window becomes unrealistic. Nonprofit campaigns often have fixed gala dates, auction catalogs, sponsor recognition deadlines, board meetings, and venue receiving windows. Factory lead time may start only after deposit, final artwork, sample approval, and material confirmation. If a quote says production takes 25 days, ask what must be complete before day one begins. The answer affects whether the schedule is safe.

The timeline should be broken into gates: RFQ clarification, sample production, sample shipping, buyer review, sponsor revisions, print strike-off approval, material booking, cutting, printing, sewing, finishing, final inspection, packing, export booking, transit, customs, and destination receiving. Each gate needs an owner and a deadline. Artwork approvals are often the hidden delay because sponsor logos may arrive late, be low resolution, or require brand-owner approval. If the event date is fixed, freeze the physical specification early and set a hard date for final art.

MOQ negotiation and schedule negotiation are linked. A supplier may accept a small order but schedule it after larger production runs. Custom dyed fabric, embroidery, special trims, retail packaging, or many artwork versions can add days or weeks. The fastest practical route is usually stock natural canvas, standard construction, one print method, no custom trim, and bulk packing. If the campaign is late, the buyer may need to simplify the bag, split shipments, or reserve air freight for a partial quantity. These decisions should be made before the order is at risk, not after the final inspection.

  • Fast route: stock natural canvas, standard size, screen print, shared construction, and bulk carton packing.
  • Slow route: custom dyed fabric, embroidery, multiple revisions, custom labels, retail packaging, and many versions.
  • Schedule question: ask when production lead time starts and what approvals are required before it starts.
  • Approval buffer: allow time for sponsor logo corrections, board sign-off, sample shipping, and destination receiving.
  • Risk control: request a production calendar with gates, not only a promised ship date.

Specification comparison for buyers

Sourcing decisionPractical specificationBest use caseQuote and QC risk to control
Fabric weight for standard campaigns10 oz to 12 oz cotton canvas, approximately 340-410 GSM after finishing, with agreed GSM tolerance such as +/-5%Event giveaways, donor thank-you bundles, tasting-table pickup, and campaign merchandise where the bag should feel reusable without excessive freight weightLow quotes may use 6 oz to 8 oz cotton, loose weave, or unconfirmed finished GSM; require fabric weight check before cutting
Fabric weight for premium donor packs14 oz to 16 oz canvas, approximately 475-540 GSM after finishing, with seam and needle settings approved on sampleSponsor gifts, winery partnerships, retail resale, auction packs, and higher-value donor recognition setsHeavier fabric increases carton gross weight, reduces carton capacity, and can create skipped stitches if the factory does not adjust needle, tension, and seam allowance
Finished size controlPattern sized around the widest approved bottle, not only a slim 750 ml Bordeaux bottle; include height, width, gusset, base width, and handle dropPrograms with mixed wine bottles, sparkling wine, olive oil, cider, or regional winery partnersUnverified bottle diameter leads to tight loading, distorted panels, divider misalignment, or volunteer delays at event pickup
Single-bottle constructionFlat body with boxed base, reinforced side seams, and handle reinforcement at stress pointsLowest-complexity launch, chapter campaigns, table gifts, and lower MOQ negotiationsA bag that looks acceptable empty can sag or twist under a filled bottle; require real-bottle load testing
Two-bottle constructionWider body with boxed base plus sewn divider or internal separator; inspect divider position and bottom seam strengthAuction bundles, paired wine sets, sponsor gifts, and retail packs where glass contact should be reducedDivider placement tolerance must be controlled; weak divider seams can allow bottle contact or uneven load distribution
Handle reinforcementSelf-fabric handles with box-X stitching or reinforced multi-row stitching; cotton webbing handles when higher carrying comfort is requiredRepeated carrying, venue pickup lines, gift sets, and heavier two-bottle formatsSimple bartack-only attachment may pass visually but fail under load; define filled-bottle hold time and failure criteria
Print methodScreen print for 1-3 solid colors; heat transfer for full-color art after adhesion and hand-feel approval; embroidery only when budget and fabric support itLogo-led nonprofit artwork, sponsor marks, campaign dates, chapter names, and simple donor messagingDifferent print sizes, placements, and color counts can trigger separate setup charges and per-artwork minimums
MOQ negotiation leverKeep one body style, one fabric color, one fabric weight, one handle type, one print position, and vary only artwork within the approved print areaMulti-chapter nonprofit campaigns, sponsor versions, event-year updates, and regional donor groupsIf each version changes construction, fabric, trim, packing, or print method, the factory will price them as separate production runs
Sampling pathConstruction sample, print strike-off on approved canvas, then pre-production sample or sealed golden sample before bulk cuttingCampaigns with board approvals, sponsor logos, firm event dates, or resale requirementsDigital mockups do not verify shrinkage, ink coverage, handle strength, bottle fit, seam bulk, or folding behavior

Buyer checklist before sampling

  1. Define the bottle program first: standard 750 ml wine, wider Burgundy-style bottles, sparkling wine, champagne, magnum, liquor, olive oil, or mixed partner products.
  2. Confirm the largest bottle diameter, total bottle height, shoulder shape, and filled weight that the carrier must handle before requesting final pricing.
  3. Choose single-bottle, two-bottle, or divided multi-bottle construction before negotiating MOQ; do not ask suppliers to price all structures as one comparable item.
  4. State fabric composition, canvas weight in oz and GSM, fabric color, dyeing route, and acceptable GSM tolerance such as +/-5% after finishing.
  5. Specify finished dimensions with tolerances: body height, body width, gusset or base width, divider width, handle length, and handle drop.
  6. Limit the first RFQ to one body size, one fabric weight, one fabric color, one handle construction, and one print position if the goal is a lower MOQ.
  7. Separate physical product versions from artwork versions; ask for total MOQ, minimum per artwork, and setup cost per artwork.
  8. Provide print size, number of colors, Pantone or brand color references, print position from fixed edges, and acceptable placement tolerance.
  9. Ask whether screen charges, film charges, digitizing, heat-transfer setup, woven label minimums, hangtag minimums, and carton label costs are included.
  10. Request a construction sample for bottle fit and handle strength, plus a print strike-off on the selected canvas before approving bulk production.

Factory quote questions to send

  1. What is the total MOQ for one shared bag construction, and what is the minimum quantity per printed artwork version?
  2. Can multiple chapter or sponsor logos share the same production run if the fabric, size, print location, and color count stay unchanged?
  3. Is the quoted canvas stock natural, bleached, dyed, organic, recycled, or custom woven, and is it available from current inventory?
  4. What are the exact finished fabric weight in oz and GSM, composition, color standard, and GSM tolerance before cutting?
  5. What finished dimensions are included in the quote, and what tolerance do you apply to body width, height, gusset, base width, divider position, and handle drop?
  6. What bottle size or bottle diameter was used to develop the pattern, and can you test with the buyer’s supplied bottle dimensions or samples?
  7. Which handle construction is included: self-fabric, cotton webbing, box-X stitch, bartack, double-row stitch, or reinforced folded insertion?
  8. What filled-bottle load test can you perform, how long is the hold or carry test, and what failures count as rejection?
  9. Which print method is included, how many colors are included, what ink type is used, and what are the charges for extra colors or extra screens?
  10. For heat transfer or full-color artwork, what adhesion, wash, rub, or peel checks can be performed on the selected canvas surface?

Quality-control points to confirm

  1. Incoming fabric should be checked for composition, shade, weave consistency, fabric weight, visible stains, oil marks, odor, and finished GSM against the approved standard.
  2. Fabric weight tolerance should be written into the PO, commonly as a percentage such as +/-5% unless the buyer and supplier agree another workable range.
  3. Finished dimensions should be measured on relaxed bags from fixed reference points; common tolerance is about +/-0.5 cm for small dimensions and +/-1 cm for larger panels, but the PO should define the exact rule.
  4. Handle drop, handle insertion depth, stitch pattern, and reinforcement position should match the approved sample because small changes affect carrying comfort and load strength.
  5. Handle attachment should pass a filled-bottle test using the heaviest approved bottle load without stitch popping, seam opening, fabric tearing, or excessive distortion.
  6. Base seams, boxed corners, side seams, and divider seams should receive extra inspection because bottle weight concentrates at these points during carrying.
  7. Two-bottle carriers should be checked for divider alignment, divider height, bottom anchoring, and whether bottles contact each other during normal handling.
  8. Print color should be compared with the approved strike-off under consistent lighting; phone photos alone should not be used for final color approval.
  9. Print placement should be measured from the same edge on every inspection sample, with a defined placement tolerance for vertical and horizontal position.
  10. Screen-printed areas should be checked for pinholes, heavy ink buildup, smears, poor coverage on coarse canvas, registration shift, cracking, and transfer marks.